{"id":429,"date":"2019-12-30T16:44:56","date_gmt":"2019-12-30T21:44:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/?p=429"},"modified":"2019-12-30T16:44:56","modified_gmt":"2019-12-30T21:44:56","slug":"joe-rogan-podcast-1385-paul-stamets-section-36-min-45-min","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/2019\/12\/30\/joe-rogan-podcast-1385-paul-stamets-section-36-min-45-min\/","title":{"rendered":"Joe Rogan Podcast #1385 &#8211; Paul Stamets (section 36 min \u2013 45 min)\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\n\nI don\u2019t personally know Paul, but we have mutual friends, like Dennis McKenna in his documentary, \u201cFantastic Fungi.\u201d When I went to Michigan for graduate studies in 1962, Paul was only a kid.  He couldn\u2019t have witnessed first-hand the psilocybin research in human health yet.  As for baeocystin and norbaeocystin, I have first-hand knowledge of them because I am the scientist who first isolated them as new compounds from Psilocybe baeocystis in liquid culture, determining their chemical structures, and giving them appropriate names. However, these findings were not published by my thesis advisor, Ara G. Paul, and me until 1967-1968 in 2 papers.   Although Varro E. (Tip) Tyler was Ara\u2019s close friend leading another group in Psilocybe research in Washington, we did our work independently.  I don\u2019t know how Paul got his information about baeocystin being toxic, or that Benedict, Tip, and I together named the chemicals.  Does anyone know where this information on baeocystin being toxic came from, before I even determined its chemical structure?  \n <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23baeocystin&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#baeocystin<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23norbaeocystin&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#norbaeocystin<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23Joerogan&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#Joerogan<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23podcast1385&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#podcast1385<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23paulstamets&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#paulstamets<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23psilocybin&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#psilocybin<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23toxic&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#toxic<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23firsthand&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#firsthand<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23liquidculture&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#liquidculture<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23Michigan&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#Michigan<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23Washington&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#Washington<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6608376010062786561&amp;keywords=%23chemicalstructure&amp;originTrackingId=JdcYwYwyrQpGCbh6OMMPoQ%3D%3D\">hashtag#chemicalstructure<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I don\u2019t personally know Paul, but we have mutual friends, like Dennis McKenna in his documentary, \u201cFantastic Fungi.\u201d When I went to Michigan for graduate studies in 1962, Paul was only a kid. He couldn\u2019t have witnessed first-hand the psilocybin research in human health yet. As for baeocystin and norbaeocystin, I have first-hand knowledge of &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/2019\/12\/30\/joe-rogan-podcast-1385-paul-stamets-section-36-min-45-min\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Joe Rogan Podcast #1385 &#8211; Paul Stamets (section 36 min \u2013 45 min)\u2026&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-429","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/429","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=429"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/429\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=429"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=429"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ayslcorp.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=429"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}